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		<title>By: Super Sleuth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Super Sleuth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jun 2011 11:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Roy Exeter

Would you agree that the fund was set up to find Madeleine McCann after her abduction from PDL in 2007.

What would you say if I have evidence that she may not have gone to PDL in 2007.

That then would constitute a fraud wouldnt it, so if the McCann fund directors are arrested and say found guilty, would that not be evidence for the Portugese police to re open the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roy Exeter</p>
<p>Would you agree that the fund was set up to find Madeleine McCann after her abduction from PDL in 2007.</p>
<p>What would you say if I have evidence that she may not have gone to PDL in 2007.</p>
<p>That then would constitute a fraud wouldnt it, so if the McCann fund directors are arrested and say found guilty, would that not be evidence for the Portugese police to re open the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy Exeter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roy Exeter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 18:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>question
if the fund is meant for legal fees etc, and helping to find madeliene, then why use it to pay for their stays in expensive hotels?.

they seem to be living like lords, at maddies expense.

is it me, or does something stink here?.

surely, cheaper ones, ie bed and breakfast etc, would suffice!,and they would have more money to spend on the more important things.

take care
Roy Exeter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>question<br />
if the fund is meant for legal fees etc, and helping to find madeliene, then why use it to pay for their stays in expensive hotels?.</p>
<p>they seem to be living like lords, at maddies expense.</p>
<p>is it me, or does something stink here?.</p>
<p>surely, cheaper ones, ie bed and breakfast etc, would suffice!,and they would have more money to spend on the more important things.</p>
<p>take care<br />
Roy Exeter</p>
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		<title>By: Trackhounds</title>
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		<dc:creator>Trackhounds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 14:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Delighted?
Pure spin
Like getting shot twice in each foot must have been the McCanns’ degree of “delight” on learning that the British Police team that is going to review Madeleine’s case is the same team that solved Shannon M’s faked abduction case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Delighted?<br />
Pure spin<br />
Like getting shot twice in each foot must have been the McCanns’ degree of “delight” on learning that the British Police team that is going to review Madeleine’s case is the same team that solved Shannon M’s faked abduction case.</p>
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		<title>By: Beyond Belief</title>
		<link>http://mccannfundfraud.info/2009/01/fund-pays-for-luxury-hotel/comment-page-1/#comment-8712</link>
		<dc:creator>Beyond Belief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 03:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone else feeling queasy at the metronomic THANK YOU on one of their Lets All Find Madeleine websites? This girl isnt lost. The family know exactly where she is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else feeling queasy at the metronomic THANK YOU on one of their Lets All Find Madeleine websites? This girl isnt lost. The family know exactly where she is.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://mccannfundfraud.info/2009/01/fund-pays-for-luxury-hotel/comment-page-1/#comment-8698</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 20:00:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I forgot the link here it is:

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/04/censored-in-uk.html

Watch the video on that page by the investigator. You won&#039;t be so sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I forgot the link here it is:</p>
<p><a href="http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/04/censored-in-uk.html" rel="nofollow">http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/04/censored-in-uk.html</a></p>
<p>Watch the video on that page by the investigator. You won&#8217;t be so sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 19:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon

Watch this video through. Pay particular attention to the specialist police dogs (these dogs solved 200 murders - you will probably not have seen this footage). 

Also note the comments of the dog handlers, the man who saw someone carrying a child to the beach and then made another report when he saw the Mcanns getting off the plane. 

And the testimony of the McCanns neighbour in the Villa in portugal that their rental car was left with the boot open night and day. This is the boot that the sniffer dogs found genetic evidence strongly indicating the presence of blood which was found to be a close match to Madeline&#039;s, despite very little being present. The dogs insicated the presence of a corpse having been both in the holiday appartment and the car rented 23 days later.

I doubt you will donate again. It looks like the McCanns daughter suffered either a tragic accident or worse and the whole damn thing is a cover up. The investigation was closed early due to UK political pressure.

Matthew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon</p>
<p>Watch this video through. Pay particular attention to the specialist police dogs (these dogs solved 200 murders &#8211; you will probably not have seen this footage). </p>
<p>Also note the comments of the dog handlers, the man who saw someone carrying a child to the beach and then made another report when he saw the Mcanns getting off the plane. </p>
<p>And the testimony of the McCanns neighbour in the Villa in portugal that their rental car was left with the boot open night and day. This is the boot that the sniffer dogs found genetic evidence strongly indicating the presence of blood which was found to be a close match to Madeline&#8217;s, despite very little being present. The dogs insicated the presence of a corpse having been both in the holiday appartment and the car rented 23 days later.</p>
<p>I doubt you will donate again. It looks like the McCanns daughter suffered either a tragic accident or worse and the whole damn thing is a cover up. The investigation was closed early due to UK political pressure.</p>
<p>Matthew</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Sep 2009 07:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re right, I don&#039;t get it. 

I occasionally stay in hotels on business and they hardly ever cost much less than £100 per night for a nice but fairly ordinary hotel. This is a doctor and a lawyer, one of who is an extremely famous (or notorious if you like) person who is likely to be hounded by the press or members of the public. 

Celebrities simply can&#039;t stay in cheap hotels.

I&#039;m open minded about what the McCanns have or haven&#039;t done, although I don&#039;t think they harmed Madeleine, but some of the stuff I have read about them is such obvious nonsense. 

This video (http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2009/08/madeleine-officially-dead/) is a great example. Anyone who believes that this constitutes &quot;absolute proof&quot; that Madeleine is dead as stated in the video is either feeble minded or malicious.

I&#039;m open minded and interested: convince me of their guilt and or corruption !

On the subject of their legal fees. Plans change. Personally, I&#039;ve twice donated money to the Find Madeleine fund and whilst £100,000 seems like a lot of money for legal fees, solicitors are expensive and I suspect their legal situation has become quite complex. (A divource could cost £50,000 without too much difficulty).

I don&#039;t care if the McCanns give up work and the fund pays their mortgage. That&#039;s why I&#039;m donating, so that they don&#039;t have to worry about money and can concentrate their efforts on Finding Madeleine.  I wouldn&#039;t even mind if they were to use some of the money to go on holiday - everybody needs one.

I&#039;ve given them money to do with as they see fit to help them find Madeleine. If you have any actual evidence of them miss-using the fund, I would be interested to see it.

&lt;strong&gt;Reply:&lt;/strong&gt; Simon, we appreciate your sensible discussion on the subject. Most people who are &quot;pro-McCann&quot; will fly off into nonsensical rages in trying to get their point across and this is why 90% of their comments are never approved.

The points you make all apply to &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt;. You are happy with how they are spending the money so there really is no issue as far as &lt;em&gt;you&lt;/em&gt; are concerned. Our problem is that many donors and other people are outraged that they keep telling lies. As was stated before, David Hughes did a press conference to specifically tell donors that the money would NOT go on legal fees. Mitchell backed this up with a similar story in an interview in New Zealand on the radio there.

So it doesn&#039;t really matter that they spent a quarter of a million pounds or even one pound. The point is they lied about spending the money on legal fees. You are right also that plans change but if they were using the Guide to Good Governance properly they would know that keeping donors informed is one of the fundamental tenets of running a charitable organisation. They should have told prospective donors that &quot;ok guys, from now on we will be spending money on lawyers.&quot; When the news came out that they had paid two mortgage payments from the fund, people were outraged and then they announced it wouldn&#039;t happen again. Clearly the news about their mortgage was a leaked story that did them no good whatsoever. And incidentally, where do those mortgage payments show on the company accounts? See - this is why they are under suspicion. They are simply not open to scrutiny because they hide things deliberately.

The video you mention may not in a court of law constitute absolute proof that Madeleine is dead. However, Clarence Mitchell does quite clearly state that Kate and Gerry are not responsible for Madeleine&#039;s &lt;em&gt;death&lt;/em&gt;. As the man had qualified this comment, it was no slip of the tongue.

There is an overwhelming amount of circumstantial evidence here and most criminal cases are tried on that basis. Kate&#039;s refusal to answer 48 key questions would be something a jury would consider in the overall verdict. So yes, people are innocent until proven guilty but that is a concept in the eyes of the law. The reality is that every single minute of every day, a crime is committed and so you have &quot;guilty&quot; people walking around freely until they are apprehended.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, I don&#8217;t get it. </p>
<p>I occasionally stay in hotels on business and they hardly ever cost much less than £100 per night for a nice but fairly ordinary hotel. This is a doctor and a lawyer, one of who is an extremely famous (or notorious if you like) person who is likely to be hounded by the press or members of the public. </p>
<p>Celebrities simply can&#8217;t stay in cheap hotels.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m open minded about what the McCanns have or haven&#8217;t done, although I don&#8217;t think they harmed Madeleine, but some of the stuff I have read about them is such obvious nonsense. </p>
<p>This video (<a href="http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2009/08/madeleine-officially-dead/" rel="nofollow">http://dogsdontlie.com/main/2009/08/madeleine-officially-dead/</a>) is a great example. Anyone who believes that this constitutes &#8220;absolute proof&#8221; that Madeleine is dead as stated in the video is either feeble minded or malicious.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m open minded and interested: convince me of their guilt and or corruption !</p>
<p>On the subject of their legal fees. Plans change. Personally, I&#8217;ve twice donated money to the Find Madeleine fund and whilst £100,000 seems like a lot of money for legal fees, solicitors are expensive and I suspect their legal situation has become quite complex. (A divource could cost £50,000 without too much difficulty).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if the McCanns give up work and the fund pays their mortgage. That&#8217;s why I&#8217;m donating, so that they don&#8217;t have to worry about money and can concentrate their efforts on Finding Madeleine.  I wouldn&#8217;t even mind if they were to use some of the money to go on holiday &#8211; everybody needs one.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve given them money to do with as they see fit to help them find Madeleine. If you have any actual evidence of them miss-using the fund, I would be interested to see it.</p>
<p><strong>Reply:</strong> Simon, we appreciate your sensible discussion on the subject. Most people who are &#8220;pro-McCann&#8221; will fly off into nonsensical rages in trying to get their point across and this is why 90% of their comments are never approved.</p>
<p>The points you make all apply to <em>you</em>. You are happy with how they are spending the money so there really is no issue as far as <em>you</em> are concerned. Our problem is that many donors and other people are outraged that they keep telling lies. As was stated before, David Hughes did a press conference to specifically tell donors that the money would NOT go on legal fees. Mitchell backed this up with a similar story in an interview in New Zealand on the radio there.</p>
<p>So it doesn&#8217;t really matter that they spent a quarter of a million pounds or even one pound. The point is they lied about spending the money on legal fees. You are right also that plans change but if they were using the Guide to Good Governance properly they would know that keeping donors informed is one of the fundamental tenets of running a charitable organisation. They should have told prospective donors that &#8220;ok guys, from now on we will be spending money on lawyers.&#8221; When the news came out that they had paid two mortgage payments from the fund, people were outraged and then they announced it wouldn&#8217;t happen again. Clearly the news about their mortgage was a leaked story that did them no good whatsoever. And incidentally, where do those mortgage payments show on the company accounts? See &#8211; this is why they are under suspicion. They are simply not open to scrutiny because they hide things deliberately.</p>
<p>The video you mention may not in a court of law constitute absolute proof that Madeleine is dead. However, Clarence Mitchell does quite clearly state that Kate and Gerry are not responsible for Madeleine&#8217;s <em>death</em>. As the man had qualified this comment, it was no slip of the tongue.</p>
<p>There is an overwhelming amount of circumstantial evidence here and most criminal cases are tried on that basis. Kate&#8217;s refusal to answer 48 key questions would be something a jury would consider in the overall verdict. So yes, people are innocent until proven guilty but that is a concept in the eyes of the law. The reality is that every single minute of every day, a crime is committed and so you have &#8220;guilty&#8221; people walking around freely until they are apprehended.</p>
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		<title>By: Simon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Sep 2009 22:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know the details of all their expenses, but what kind of hotel would you expect them to stay at? 

These are two professional people who would presumably have stayed in a similar hotel if they were paying for it themselves. Considering their additional (and obvious) need for discretion a high quality hotel was the only choice.

I&#039;ve donated money to Find Madeleine fund and I&#039;m not even slightly worried that it is being spent this way. The idea that they could just stay in a B&amp;B is very naive and the idea of &quot;pitching a tent&quot; is ludicrous.

&lt;strong&gt;Reply:&lt;/strong&gt; You presume wrong. If they would normally stay in this type of accommodation why then did they go on holiday in a place where they had to push two single beds together to make a double and where the inside of the apartment at Ocean Club looked more like a dormitory? Apartment 5A was far from being a 5 star hotel.

In any charitable like organisation there are guidelines about expenditure on things like hotels etc. They allege that they use the Guide to Good Governance which is a manual on how to run a charity but they clearly don&#039;t adhere to those policies. In short, they have lied constantly about where the money will be spent.

You don&#039;t get it do you? The point is that they are not doing what they said they were going to do when they set up the company and asked people to donate. It doesn&#039;t matter what you think about it - people WERE duped. David Hughes and Clarence Mitchell are both recorded as saying that no money would be spent on legal fees. This is an outright lie. There was a six figure sum in the accounts for lawyers.

This is why people are angry about the fund.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know the details of all their expenses, but what kind of hotel would you expect them to stay at? </p>
<p>These are two professional people who would presumably have stayed in a similar hotel if they were paying for it themselves. Considering their additional (and obvious) need for discretion a high quality hotel was the only choice.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve donated money to Find Madeleine fund and I&#8217;m not even slightly worried that it is being spent this way. The idea that they could just stay in a B&amp;B is very naive and the idea of &#8220;pitching a tent&#8221; is ludicrous.</p>
<p><strong>Reply:</strong> You presume wrong. If they would normally stay in this type of accommodation why then did they go on holiday in a place where they had to push two single beds together to make a double and where the inside of the apartment at Ocean Club looked more like a dormitory? Apartment 5A was far from being a 5 star hotel.</p>
<p>In any charitable like organisation there are guidelines about expenditure on things like hotels etc. They allege that they use the Guide to Good Governance which is a manual on how to run a charity but they clearly don&#8217;t adhere to those policies. In short, they have lied constantly about where the money will be spent.</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t get it do you? The point is that they are not doing what they said they were going to do when they set up the company and asked people to donate. It doesn&#8217;t matter what you think about it &#8211; people WERE duped. David Hughes and Clarence Mitchell are both recorded as saying that no money would be spent on legal fees. This is an outright lie. There was a six figure sum in the accounts for lawyers.</p>
<p>This is why people are angry about the fund.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was is a just coincidence that this hotel was close to a couple of the worlds finest golf courses? And the hotel gave special reduced rates to it&#039;s guests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was is a just coincidence that this hotel was close to a couple of the worlds finest golf courses? And the hotel gave special reduced rates to it&#8217;s guests.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:36:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought they had &#039;friends&#039; in Portugal?
Has been mentioned before their friends continuing to have prayer vigils.
Now the obvious most discreet and cheap way to stay would be with friends?
Or use a travel lodge/motel...never been to Portugal but I would think they have something along these lines. What happened to good ole B&amp;B or self catering or pitch a tent!
I am glad I never donated but truly feel for people like Beattie who did...it&#039;s all a circus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought they had &#8216;friends&#8217; in Portugal?<br />
Has been mentioned before their friends continuing to have prayer vigils.<br />
Now the obvious most discreet and cheap way to stay would be with friends?<br />
Or use a travel lodge/motel&#8230;never been to Portugal but I would think they have something along these lines. What happened to good ole B&amp;B or self catering or pitch a tent!<br />
I am glad I never donated but truly feel for people like Beattie who did&#8230;it&#8217;s all a circus!</p>
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